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Ex Mormon turned Christian

As the author of this Christian website I would like to offer my testimony of how I came to know the Lord and why I rejected my Mormon upbringing.

My ex Mormon testimony is not a usual ex LDS testimony. Rather it is more like leaving Mormonism and turning to drugs and crime and then after an encounter with a demon turning to Jesus.

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I would like to share with you my own experience of how I came to the Lord. I feel that it is unfortunate that our culture often views demons, Hell, and other such things like some sort of fairy tale.

I was born and raised in an active Mormon family. I had kind and loving parents, for which I am thankful. I grew up believing a different gospel than that which is found in the Bible; I was taught and believed Mormon doctrine. When I became a teenager I was very rebellious. Although I believed in God, I was much more interested in partying and getting in trouble. I did a lot of things back then that I am ashamed of today. One night some friends and I were watching a demonic movie. I remember my friends commenting on the movie. They were saying that if the things that were taking place in the movie were happening to them, they would leave that house. I did not see how that was an answer. I pointed out that the demons certainly were not confined to that house.

Later that night while I was working graveyard shift I was reflecting on this. I started wondering how much Satan enjoyed my lifestyle. I wondered if he had any part in my life that led to mental anguish and anger. I know this sounds crazy but the thought of this made me mad! I began to want to retaliate against him. I was alone in the shop and so I began to yell at him. I said that for every person I robbed I would tell somebody about Jesus. Not that I cared about Jesus. I just figured that would make Satan mad.

Right after this I was overwhelmed by the feeling that something evil was there in the shop with me. The feeling was so strong that it scared me. I began to pray, and the feeling went away. For the next three months or so, this same awful feeling would come upon me, even if I was not thinking about such things. Each time it scared me so much that I would begin to pray. Every time I prayed the feeling would go away; but it always seemed to come back. Things began to get worse. Sometimes while I was driving it would feel like something would grab the steering wheel of my car. I would be pulling really hard, trying to turn, then suddenly the steering would break free, as if something let go of the wheel, and I would almost wreck. I was becoming afraid to go anywhere or do anything.

One night when I had gone home, I was inserting my key into the lock when I saw something on the other side of the glass staring back at me. I jumped back and while I was looking at what I believe was a demon, it disappeared. If I was high on drugs perhaps I could have brushed it off, but I wasn't. For me, this was all I could take! I got down on my knees there in my front yard and told God that if He would just make this go away I would give my life to Him. That night these things stopped happening to me. I have a friend who had become a Christian several months before this, so I began to go to church with him.

Later I took a vacation and went to see my parents. I wanted to tell them about what had happened and the change that had taken place in my life. I figured they would be happy, considering all of the hardship I had put them through in my teenage years at home. To my surprise my dad was not pleased at all. He said I might as well not go to church at all because I was going to the wrong one. He insisted that I needed to return to the Mormon Church. This caused a lot of confusion for me. I had friends who insisted that the Mormon Church was a cult, and that it did not teach Biblical truth. But my family was telling me that the Mormon Church was the only true church.

I began to question who or what I should believe. Why should I even believe the Bible? A good friend of mine directed me to the Christian bookstore. I began to study Mormonism as well as historic Christianity. After a lot of research, study, and prayer I found a lot of factual reasons to accept the Bible as the Word of God. I also discovered just as many reasons not to accept the Book of Mormon as the Word of God. I found that Mormon doctrine is contrary to the teachings of the Bible. I also found that it could be proven that Joseph Smith was a false prophet.

I accepted the Lord around 1985, and have been studying on and off since then. I am glad to say that although the majority of my relatives are still Mormon, my dad, who was a High Priest in the Mormon Church and served on three stake missions, has left Mormonism. My Dad now has accepted Jesus and the doctrine of historic Christianity.

Several years after I accepted the Lord, Mormon missionaries started coming to my house. After some discussion, one of them asked me if I wanted my name removed from the L.D.S church records. I answered, only if somebody understood why. I gave them a book that I wrote which contained a portion of what is found on my website. I stated in a letter written on the inside of the cover of that book that I would be willing to listen to anybody who could show me in the Bible where I was wrong. I further stated that I would gladly accept any correction from the Bible since I believed that it is the final authority. About a month later I received a letter in the mail stating that they were removing my name as a member of the L.D.S church. I find it interesting that nobody within the L.D.S church ever even attempted to show me where I was wrong, scripturally, in what I had written. I am not surprised however, because I know that the L.D.S church is, in fact, one that has greatly abused the Word of God (the Bible).

I am aware of the many strong testimonies from L.D.S. members who claim to have had supernatural experiences — especially in the area of those who are deceased being grateful for L.D.S. members being baptized in their behalf. To this I must say, we should interpret our experiences through the Bible. We should not interpret the Bible through our experiences. The Bible warns us not to even listen to an angel if they tell us something which is contrary to the Bible. A spirit could seem good and do wonderful things for you, but if it contradicts the Bible then you know it is not from God. Some would question why a demon might do good things for anyone. Remember that if in doing so, the demon leads you away from Jesus and the truth of the Gospel, then it has accomplished its purpose.

Robert E. Kiser

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It has been suggested that I should tell my readers a little more about me. My first thought is I am not important who cares? However for whatever its worth in case some poor soul is actually interested let me introduce myself. I was born in 1957 and have now lived in Montana, Arizona, California, Tennessee, Oregon, Idaho and brief time in New Jersey. Out of all of these states I have now spent the most years of my life in Oregon.  I have traveled a little bit. I hitchhiked across the states a couple of times when I was younger. I have been in most of the 50 states at one time or another with the exception of Alaska and Hawaii. I really would like to go to Alaska sometime and see Denali National Park.

Some have wondered what is up with the pictures of a Tepee on this website. Well I happen to like Tepees and I have lived in one for a total of 7 years off and on. I have owned 3 different tepees. There is something majestic about them. In a Tepee you are not disconnected from the outside like you are in a house. You can hear everything that is going on outside. There is no place I would rather be during a good thunder storm. You can see the lighting flashes through the canvas. The rain beats down on the stretched canvas like a drum. The wind causes it to breathe slightly lifting the canvas from the lodge poles. It is like the Tepee comes to life. This is a rather unique experience which I have often enjoyed. By the way Tipi and Tepee are both proper spellings of the word and you will find I use both.

I have now lived at least 15 years of my life without conventional electricity and running water. This has been mostly because I have worked minimum wage labor jobs and soon realized most of my income was spent on rent and utilities. I also would rather live by myself in the country which is next to impossible with a meager income. My conclusion was to give up the traditional way of living to be able to live in the woods.

My past is as some would say colorful or different. I am ashamed of much of my past yet it still is part of what has made who I am today. I really do not know how many times I have been arrested. Fortunately I have never been to prison or convicted of a felony. Many of the people I hung out with went to prison or died due to the chosen lifestyle. I am glad to say that all of that has been behind me since about 1985 when I turned to the Lord.

I like many became kind of a Pharisee putting rules and judgment upon others that could not even be supported with scripture. As life would have it I failed in my own expectations of people. I learned that I still have a sinful nature and always will and the same is true of ALL people. I have learned more depth to the meaning of Grace and Mercy. It has become harder to judge others when trying to view them with the Log jam in my own eye. (Mt.7:3) Still I know the best thing to do when you fall is to get back up. Many have rejected Christianity because of Christians who failed and were labeled as hypocrites. Not all failures are huge some or small. Yet small failures still hurt our witness. Of course the truth of Christianity does not stand or fall on any Christian today. It stands upon Jesus Christ who really was perfect. As someone once said it would be better to be in a church with a few hypocrites than to end up in Hell with a lot of them.

I have worked a variety of jobs in my life; here is a list of some of them. I worked as a Platter and Etcher in a Circuit Board Shop. I worked for the Forest Service on a Survey Crew. I have also worked on Fires, planted trees, built fences, set chokers, split rails and other various jobs in the woods. For Ranchers I have bucked hay, moved irrigation pipes, cleaned ditches, mended fences etc. I loaded Semi Trucks and palletized for several years at Harry & David which is a well known company for its fruit and gift packages sent all over the world. I certified police radars and taught classes on the theory and operation of R.A.D.A.R which is kind of ironic considering my past. I have also worked as a janitor, painter, waiter, dishwasher, delivery driver and other various jobs. I have also worked a number of years in a Dental Lab. I drove forklift for Reddaway trucking and delivered oxygen and durable medical equipment for Lincare. I currently am a non-emergency medical transport driver. My long term goal is to spread the gospel full time. That is where my real passion is and there is nothing I consider more important.

I do not have any family or relatives that live here in Oregon. I know that sounds lonely to some, but I do OK. I was a dog's best friend. I like driving in the truck going anywhere. I like hiking, swimming and can be content just lying down in an empty field. Like a dog I do prefer to sleep on a bed or on the couch. I am not greatly concerned about muddy paw prints that I know can be cleaned up later. However I have no interest in digging for gophers or chasing rocks. I am generally friendly, but I will bite if someone threatens or hurts a loved one. My friend Linda tells me I am a Caveman raised by wolves and I must admit that I am definitely more like Shriek than Prince Charming.

My education is mostly self taught. My math and reading skills came from my mom more so than any school.  I was kicked out of a couple of schools back then. After you are kicked out of continuation school no other schools will accept you. I did go back and take the test to get my G.E.D and I spent a short time at a community College. I also spent a semester at Calvary Chapel Bible School in Southern California where I learned some good study habits concerning the Bible. Most of my study concerning the Bible stems from wanting proof or evidence for everything since I was raised as a Mormon which is indeed a cult. It is true that my only .PH.D is one that actually stands for Post Hole Digger. Someone once asked me what made me qualified to write on subjects you find in this website. My answer is:

1 Cor 1:27 but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong,

Acts 4:13
Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John, and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were marveling, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.

2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

I wrote most of everything that is on this website with a couple of exceptions. I also made the website which has been a real learning experience in itself. There are also Christian Brothers and Sisters which have given me a great deal of advice, encouragement, prayer support and ideas. All though I did the work I cannot claim all of the credit because others who the Lord used played a big part in what you will find here. Of course without the Lord this website would not exist at all! If anything here on this website helps you or encourages you the credit belongs to the Lord because he is the reason it is here.

I love animals both wild and domestic. I love spending time in the woods and enjoy the simple life. I have done a lot of hiking and backpacking. I have walked most of the section of the Pacific Crest Trail across Oregon. My favorite mountain to climb is Mt. Thielson. I have climbed Mt. Shasta a couple of times, but I like Thielson better because it is so small on top it makes you feel like you are on top of the world.

I also have taken an interest in survival skills such as edible plants, making a solar still to get water etc. The G.P.S book that I wrote is my learning about navigation.

I like people and can get along with almost anybody. Yet I am really kind of a loner and preferred to mostly just hang out with my dog. I miss him! In some ways that makes me a walking contradiction. I want to reach people for Christ yet I want to stay in the woods as much as possible. Fortunately the web allows me to do that. I have also had most of my writing in the form of a free newsletter in front of grocery stores in Southern Oregon. I hope to do something similar again. I have in the past sent some stuff to prisons on a limited basis. I have hopes and dreams of where this ministry will go, but that is entirely up to the Lord.

Well I have rambled on long enough about me. Let me leave with a quote that I do not know who said it. "If you meet me and forget me you have lost Nothing! If you meet Jesus and forget him you have lost everything"!!!

With Love from Christ
Robert

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