Mormon beliefs have a different God and Jesus than the one found in your bible. There are strong warnings in the bible about this. In this study we will compare both the Christian God and the Mormon God with the Bible. We will also compare the LDS Jesus Christ to the biblical Jesus.
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Overview of content in this section is as follows:
A DIFFERENT GOD
We Should Not Listen to Prophets Who follow False Gods
Jesus is our Elder Brother
Lucifer is the Brother of Jesus
Jesus is the Firstborn Spirit Child of the Father
Christ Gained Exaltation (Became God)
All Men Were Born Sons of God in the Spirit
Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way mortal men are begotten by mortal Fathers
Jesus Created Angels, Including Lucifer
Jesus Has Always Been God
Jesus was a Miraculous Conception; A Virgin Gave Birth by the Power of the Holy Spirit
The Jesus of Mormonism was born at Jerusalem
The Jesus of the Bible was born in Bethlehem
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No Other Gods- rebuttal against Mormon misquotes
False prophecies are not the only reason why we should reject a prophet. If the prophet tells us to follow after other gods, then we are not to listen to that prophet. Have the prophets of the Mormon Church taught us of the God of the Bible? Or have these prophets instead encouraged us to follow after another god?
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The God of Mormonism is not the God of the Bible. In the following quotes from L.D.S. authorities we learn:
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Vol.2, GODHEAD
The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, pg.4
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Journal of Discourses, Vol.6, pgs.3-4 (PDF pg. 11)
“In order to understand the subject of the dead, for the consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends, it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity; I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the veil, so that you may see.
“These are incomprehensible ideas to some; but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.”
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D&C 130:22 (PDF LDS Scripture pg. 831)
THE BIBLE DOES NOT AGREE WITH THESE MORMON CONCEPTS.
In these three verses we have just seen that God has been God from everlasting to everlasting, even from eternity. He is the first and the last and there is no God besides Him. If that does not mean He has always been God, what does it mean?
If God was once human, like us, and through eternal progression became God, then He certainly changed a lot. You would have to change a lot to be like God, wouldn't you? The Bible says that God has not changed.
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So far we have seen that God has always been God, and He does not change. Now we see that He does not have a body of flesh and bones.
"But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers,‘God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.’”
Jesus made both of the above statements. Speaking of the Father He said, "God is spirit". Jesus also said, "a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." From Jesus we learn that the Father is spirit and that a spirit does not have a body of flesh and bones.
CONFLICTING MORMON VIEWS
The Book of Mormon also states that God is Spirit.
Alma 18:26-27: (PDF LDS Scripture pg. 273)
Alma 22:8-11: (PDF LDS Scripture pg. 282)
The Book of Mormon tells us there are no other Gods.
Alma 11:21-22: (PDF LDS Scripture pg. 253)
Alma 11:28-29: (PDF LDS Scripture pg. 253-254)
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Brigham Young taught that Adam was God.
The Mormon Church no longer believes that Adam was God. In fact, they try to deny that this was ever taught. However, this doctrine is still in their own records, spoken by their former prophet.
Journal of Discourses, Vol.1, pgs.50-51 (PDF pg. 58)
Brigham Young, April 9, 1852
Brigham Young Adam God
Adam-God references can also be found in
Brigham Young's words are as good as Scripture:
Journal of Discourses, Vol.13, pg.95 (PDF pg. 103)
Brigham Young, January 2, 1870
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The Jesus of the Bible is our Creator, and He created angels, including Lucifer.
The Jesus of the Bible has always been God.
The Jesus of the Bible was born by miraculous conception through the Holy Spirit to the virgin Mary.
Remember that we are warned about false Christs and wrong beliefs about who He is (Mark 13:6-23, Matthew 24:5-24, 2 Peter 2:1-3, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, John 8:24).
The following L.D.S. quotations are numbered #1-#8 for point of reference to the commentary following.
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#1, James R. Clark,
Messages of the First Presidency, Vol.4, pg.266
#2, Journal of Discourses, Vol.6, pgs.207-208 (PDF pg. 215)
Joseph Young, October 11, 1857
#3, Discourses of Brigham Young, pgs.53-54 (PDF pg. 100)
(Compare to Isaiah 44:24, which states that God created all alone.)
#4, Times and Seasons, Vol.5, pg.758 (PDF pg. 378)
#5, Bruce R. McConkie, (L.D.S. Apostle)
A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, pg.66
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#6, Bruce R. McConkie,
A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, pg.382
“This recitation of how Christ worshipped the Father, thus gaining exaltation for himself, has been revealed to us in this day for a specific reason. ‘I give unto you these sayings,’ he says — those sayings that set forth how he was saved by worshipping the Father — that you may understand and know how to worship, and know what you worship, that you may come unto the Father in my name, and in due time receive of his fullness. For if you keep my commandments you shall receive of his fullness, and be glorified in me as I am in the Father; therefore, I say unto you, you shall receive grace for grace" (D&C 93:12-20).
Under EXALTATION in Mormon Doctrine on pg.257 They inherit in due course the fullness of the glory of the Father, meaning that they have all power in heaven and on earth. (D. & C. 76:50-60; 93:1-40.) "Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power and the angels are subject unto them" (PDF pg.95)
#7, Bruce R. McConkie,
A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, pgs.67-68
#8, Bruce R. McConkie
Mormon Doctrine, pg.546 (PDF pg. 196)
ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
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Commentary on the Above Quotations
In #1, #2, #3, and #4, we learned that the Jesus of Mormonism is our elder brother, and the literal brother of Lucifer. The Jesus of the Bible is our Creator; yes, even the creator of angels.
“All things”: whether visible or invisible, whether thrones or dominions, or rulers or authorities. “All things” is a concrete statement; included as part of “all things” are mankind, and angels (see also John1:3 and Hebrews 1:2).
Satan was created.
If Jesus created angels, including Lucifer, how can Jesus be the literal spirit brother of His own creation? He cannot; therefore this Mormon concept of Jesus is also false. Likewise, Jesus is also the creator of mankind; he cannot be our literal elder brother. Furthermore, Scripture never implies that angels become people or that people become angels.
In #5 and #6, we see that the Jesus of Mormonism is not eternal; He was born just as we were. The Jesus of Mormonism has not always been a God; He achieved this state through exaltation. The Jesus of the Bible is eternal and He has always been God.
John 1:1 and 14
In the previous quotation under #5, the word “firstborn” is misused from Colossians 1:15. The correct “firstborn” is word #4416 in Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words:
“prototokos ^4416^, ‘firstborn’ (from protos, ‘first’, and tikto, ‘to beget’) is used of Christ as born of the Virgin Mary, <Luke 2:7>; further, in His relationship to the Father, expressing His priority to, and preeminence over, creation, not in the sense of being the ‘first’ to be born. It is used occasionally as superiority of position in the OT, se <Exod. 4:22; Deut. 21:16, 17>, the prohibition being against the evil of assigning the privileged position of the ‘firstborn’ to one born subsequently to the ‘first’ child.”
This use of this word, as described in Vine's dictionary, is also shown in the context of the passage.
Jesus is said to have preeminence, and is called “firstborn from the dead”, showing that the L.D.S. use of the word “firstborn” in this passage is in error.
In #7 and #8, we see that the Jesus of Mormonism was begotten through a sexual relation between Mary and God the Father. The Jesus of the Bible was a miraculous conception where a virgin gave birth by the power of the Holy Spirit.
The Jesus of Mormonism was born at Jerusalem.
Book of Mormon, Alma 7:10 (PDF LDS Scripture pg. 242)
The Jesus of the Bible was born in Bethlehem.
A DIFFERENT HOLY SPIRIT
Whether or not the Holy Spirit of Mormonism is a person or a fluid depends upon which Mormon source you choose to quote. The Holy Spirit of Mormonism is only able to be in one place at a time. God the Holy Spirit of the Bible is a person and He can be in more than one place at a time.
Messages of the First Presidency, Vol.2, pg.237
Reynolds and Sjodahl,
Commentary on the Book of Mormon, Vol. 4, pg.360
Bruce R. McConkie,
Mormon Doctrine, pg.358 (PDF pg. 130)
“The Holy Ghost is the third member of the Godhead. He is a Personage of Spirit, a Spirit Person, a Spirit Man, and a Spirit Entity. He can be in only one place at one time and he does not and cannot transform himself into any other form or image than that of the Man whom he is, though his power and influence can be manifest at one and the same time through all immensity. (D. & C. 130:22-23; Teachings, p. 190, 275-276; Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed., pp. 59-62.) (no other image than that of man see Mk.1:10, JN.1:32).”
The Holy Spirit is a person. There is not a verse that directly states that the Holy Spirit is a person; however, there are passages that attribute characteristics that are applied only to a person, and not to a force or power.
These types of references are only applied to a person with a personality. These are not references that one would use for a force or power.
The Holy Spirit can be in more than one place at a time. Again, there is not a verse that states this directly, but it is implied.
Jesus told His disciples that the Holy Spirit would be with them forever. Certainly Jesus knew that all of the disciples would not stay grouped together forever. The only way that the Holy Spirit could do this is to be in more than one place at once. “Omnipresence” is an attribute of God that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit all possess, as the three constitute only one God.
As far as the Holy Spirit being referred to as a "fluid" there is no passage in the Bible that gives a hint of any such thing. This comes only from the minds and imagination of the L.D.S. authorities.